{"id":8099,"date":"2008-12-01T01:25:46","date_gmt":"2008-12-01T01:25:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/juicemagazine.com\/home\/?p=8099"},"modified":"2022-06-11T17:11:40","modified_gmt":"2022-06-12T00:11:40","slug":"ivory-serra","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/juicemagazine.com\/home\/ivory-serra\/","title":{"rendered":"IVORY SERRA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>INTERVIEW AND INTRODUCTION BY STEVE OLSON <\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>PHOTOS BY IVORY SERRA AND MORGAN GHAN<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This is a test of the American Broadcasting Network&#8230; Opinions&#8230; everyone has one. Then there are the ones that count&#8230; And it&#8217;s easy to tell the ones that have Matter, Mass, and some kind of substance&#8230; Truth, and all that Jazz&#8230; Who chopped down the cherry tree anyway? Ask me no questions, I&#8217;ll still tell the Truth. Ivory Serra is, all of the above&#8230;And then some&#8230; Read on my brother&#8230;For the truth is soon upon you&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>&#8220;I&#8217;VE WANTED TO SKATE POOLS SINCE I WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD. THAT FEELING TRANSCENDS TIME.&#8221;<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Hold on.<\/strong><br \/>\nOkay. How&#8217;s everything out there in sunny California?<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>It&#8217;s sunny as ever.<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.]<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>You know what they say out here? It&#8217;s sextra.<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.] The sun never sets on the cool. I guess that&#8217;s why you have to wear sunglasses all the time.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>[Laughs.] It&#8217;s getting bright, like the future. That was a great interview. I&#8217;ll talk to you later.<\/strong><br \/>\nSounds good. We don&#8217;t like to be boring, do we?<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>I don&#8217;t ever think it&#8217;s boring. Do you?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo. I wasn&#8217;t sure if you were going to ask the questions and edit later or what.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>I faxed you the questions. You didn&#8217;t get them?<\/strong><br \/>\nI&#8217;m actually missing that technology, to tell you the truth.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>[Laughs.] Right. I was dating myself.<\/strong><br \/>\nActually, the fax is cool. People still ask for a fax when it&#8217;s a contract. It&#8217;s kind of weird.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>It&#8217;s so they can have a hard copy. The last time I did something with Deutsch, they were like, \u201cFax me this. Fax me that.\u201d I was like, \u201cWhat? Are you in the 1990s?\u201d<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.] I was reminiscing about skateboarding history and there was a point where filmmaker Jon Malvino was premiering a film at this party in Northern California. Shelter and I were like 14 or 15. The movie had Rob Roskopp in it. It was kind of cheesy with ditches, downhill spillways and stuff. They were surf\/skateboarding movies.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Well, Rob Roskopp is not a surf\/skateboarder.<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.] No. No. No. Jon Malvino was.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Malvino. Yes. Roskopp. No.<\/strong><br \/>\nIt was an embarrassment to the history of Santa Cruz skateboarding.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>That&#8217;s just proof that people will buy product even with bad advertising as long as there is enough of it.<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah. There were probably eight different ridiculous boards of his.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>[Laughs.] Don&#8217;t get me started. We&#8217;re interviewing you and you had to take me to that place in my mind. I had to be hypnotized to get that out of my brain.<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.]<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Could you imagine some weird Californian guy doing that? \u201cWell, I had some bad memories, so they hypnotized me and now I don&#8217;t think about them anymore&#8230; \u201d<\/strong><br \/>\nThat could only happen in California.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Guess what, buddy. It happens in New York, too.<\/strong><br \/>\nPeople do go to shrinks, so to speak.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Did you ever learn anything from a psychologist?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo. It was a waste of time, basically.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Let me get to the real question. Did you get any meds from it or not?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo. I&#8217;ve never delved into the pharmaceutical\/medical world in terms of doctors. Actually, I&#8217;ve never broken any major bones, so it&#8217;s never been that bad.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>You&#8217;ve never broken a bone?<\/strong><br \/>\nI&#8217;ve broken fingers and toes. I had a minor contusion on my thigh and couldn&#8217;t bend my leg for six to eight months. When it gets cold, it still hurts to bend my leg. I hurt my neck once.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>When you were trying to imitate Cab?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>You didn&#8217;t find any humor in that?<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.] I remember him at the San Jose warehouse. He used to rip and he still does. I like his style.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>He does the \u201cCabiwerial\u201d. That&#8217;s what the chick on the X Games called it.<\/strong><br \/>\nCab was at the Autumn Bowl skating with Christian, Gonz, Omar, me, Shelter and Kessler and he did a frontside invert on that over vert wall.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>He rips. Let&#8217;s get over it, all right?<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.] I&#8217;m stoked on him. You start the questions.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Where did you grow up?<\/strong><br \/>\nI grew up in Bolinas, California. It&#8217;s 40 minutes north of San Francisco off Highway 1.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Is that where you started skateboarding?<\/strong><br \/>\nExactly.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Is that where you started taking photos?<\/strong><br \/>\nI started taking photos on summer vacations to my grandmother&#8217;s house. My mom grew up in Utah and as kids we&#8217;d drive Highway 80 to Ogden and hang out there with our grandmother. We&#8217;d take little bus rides and go to Baja and Acapulco. Every summer there were road trips of some sort.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Were you shooting landscapes at all?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo. I still have the first roll of film that I ever shot. It was from a 110 camera. I was in Utah. There was a movie called Red Dawn, which showed an invasion of America. It started in a classroom situation and everyone was looking out the window. That was the brick building right across the street from my grandmother&#8217;s house. It was close to the Promontory Point where the railroads met. That first roll of pictures was family-oriented. I have two brothers and two sisters. I&#8217;ve always taken pictures of my family traveling. Then in high school, there was a photo class. At the same time, Shelter and I had a vert ramp. I had a Sims Hosoi board from Skates on Haight with City Streets.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>City Streets were some of the best wheels ever.<\/strong><br \/>\nA friend of ours, Will Beckman, had this small ramp. People would come from San Francisco to skate this 8 1\/2 -foot tall ramp that was 16 feet wide. That&#8217;s where Shelter and I learned how to drop in. Tommy Guerrero came out there and did Andrechts on the ramp. It was a northern California getaway. It was only an hour from San Francisco. There&#8217;s always been a ramp in Bolinas. We were young and doing the junior lifeguard thing. There was a great channel to surf.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Did you surf in Bolinas?<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah. Growing up there, it was a fishing and surfing type town. When you&#8217;re 12 or 14, you start doing things on your own. Your parents aren&#8217;t as supervisional, so Shelter and I checked out the junior lifeguard program in Stinson Beach. There was a junior lifeguard competition at Cal&#8217;s Beach when I was 16. That was probably the first time we went down to Santa Cruz. Derby Park was the cool skate spot at the time. There weren&#8217;t a lot of skateparks like there are now. It was like a step into the past. It was a cement park. Then they built the Palo Alto Skatepark. We had a vert ramp for three years in Bolinas. It was in Thrasher from &#8217;86 to &#8217;88.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Where did you learn how to ride?<\/strong><br \/>\nI&#8217;d say northern California. When we were young, that whole Embarcadero scene was going on.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>So you were up in there in the &#8217;80s?<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah, it was &#8217;85 or &#8217;86. That was 20 years ago. There was a YMCA ramp near Haight St. and Golden Gate Park. There was a lot of action there. Every Sunday they would close the park and there were ramps. Do you remember Concrete Jungle, the old skate shop?<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Yeah. Carlo&#8217;s place.<\/strong><br \/>\nThey put out a street skating model called Board to Death.That&#8217;s when Coco Santiago moved from New York. Shelter and I would skate Embarcadero at night with James Kelch. I don&#8217;t want to talk about the whole New York\/West Coast emerging situation because that&#8217;s not important.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Oh, no. Let&#8217;s talk about that. What&#8217;s the difference between New York and California?<\/strong><br \/>\nWell, there&#8217;s a big difference between Northern California and Southern California, too. In California, in many ways, skating is different.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Well, one basic difference is the weather.<\/strong><br \/>\nI think skateboarding is more enjoyable in California because you have a horizon that you&#8217;re constantly in relationship to. Whether it&#8217;s a ramp, pool, curb or ledge, you have more space to see the sky and it really makes a difference. When you&#8217;re skating in a dense environment like New York, you&#8217;re looking at traffic and, at certain times of day, it&#8217;s too dark to skate, or there are too many people walking on the street. New York City has limiting factors, which aren&#8217;t as common in California. Let&#8217;s say you park your car at Atwater Village and you see a bank. You can jump out of your car and skate it. Bam. That&#8217;s something you couldn&#8217;t do in New York. I think there is less security in California and more space and more land.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>So you have San Francisco and New York. There are similarities except San Francisco has a lot of hills.<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.] There are some hills here.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>[Laughs.] You have Central Park and the slope between 38th and 34th. If you want to go up really high, fine, but Ivory&#8230; San Francisco is a city built on hills and New York is primarily flat.<\/strong><br \/>\nSan Francisco is where Shelter and I learned to skate. We were seeing Tommy Guerrero and the CBS crew out near Fort Miley going down the hills to Fulton Street. That&#8217;s how I learned to skate. We skated the curb cuts too. In New York, there are no good curbs. It&#8217;s unfortunate.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>You are so excellent. Let me break it down to you. I don&#8217;t look at curbs. Period. It&#8217;s a generational difference. That&#8217;s all.<\/strong><br \/>\nThere are no curb cuts in New York City. If you go to southern California, there are the ones in the old video of Natas ripping near the Sadlands.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>He&#8217;s a curb cutter.<\/strong><br \/>\nThere are none of those in Manhattan. It&#8217;s unimportant.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>It&#8217;s as important as you want it to be. Who is that talking in the background?<\/strong><br \/>\nShelter. He said, \u201cThere are no lawns and driveways in New York.\u201d When we were young, we&#8217;d go down to Newport Beach. Our dad was doing a case down there.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Your dad is radical. I never use that word, but he is a dope ass dude.<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah, he&#8217;s still going strong. He&#8217;s working on a case in Fresno and has this huge Bronco that he&#8217;s been driving back and forth from San Francisco for the last two weeks.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>You and Shelter are twins so you had your brother to skate with all the time. Not everyone grows up with that opportunity.<\/strong><br \/>\nWe grew up skating and traveling.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>When you went on family vacations, you and Shelter had your skateboards with you once you got into skateboarding?<\/strong><br \/>\nOh, yeah. When we were 12 or 13, we had grown up skating in Bolinas. Then we were thinking about what high school we should go to. We played baseball growing up.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Jock. What position?<\/strong><br \/>\n[Laughs.] I played third base. Then I played outfield. Our father was a really good baseball player. Our younger brother, Chime, played for Berkeley and Pepperdine. He was really good.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Do you follow baseball now?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo, I have no real interest in sports. I like watching some games, but when the Super Bowl comes up, I understand the importance for some people, but not me.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Have you ever been on a skate team?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo. When Shelter and I were 17 we got shoes from Vans. Steve Van Doren is a great guy. He flew us down there and we got to check out the factory and their ramp with that over-vert extension. I still remember that photo of Chris Miller.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>You&#8217;re like a historian.<\/strong><br \/>\nWell, there are distinctive moments that you remember. I&#8217;m totally into history.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>I know this. It&#8217;s nothing more than actually acknowledging that you use your brain.<\/strong><br \/>\nYou know which picture I&#8217;m talking about right?<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>I have no idea. I stopped looking at those magazines in 1980.<\/strong><br \/>\nI try to keep up with the magazines.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>I look at magazines more now than I ever did.<\/strong><br \/>\nI keep all the magazines. I looked at the recent Juice Magazine three or four times.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Do you like to watch videotapes?<\/strong><br \/>\nWell, videotapes were the predecessors to the DVD. There&#8217;s a point to all the old 411 stuff and Hocus Pocus days. There&#8217;s the Baker stuff that&#8217;s kind of fun. It takes a lot of time to sit down and watch all those videos though.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><strong>Do you think you get more out of a video than you do out of a photo?<\/strong><br \/>\nI think it depends on the trick. 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